@nishio: I made this conversation Polis https://t.co/SyyDJt1F5B @shinji_kono: Canât you do something about that leading question? Canât you just ask a counter-question? @nishio: itâs your subjectivity that makes you think itâs derivative, anyone can submit an opinion if they have a gripe! shinji_kono Donât you think itâs your own flaw that you canât have that feeling yourself? You know about Arrowâs theorem, donât you? nishio Iâm a little confused. You said, âDonât you think itâs your own flaw that you canât feel that way about yourself?â Please elaborate a bit more on the part of shinji_kono That sounds like Eliza. It is good to think and see about the definability of the concept of objective questions and the accuracy of information obtained from subjective questions only. nishio I think the word âobjectiveâ first appeared here, where did it come from? @shinji_kono: of course, that means the question is not objective The opposite of inductive. Says itâs funny that you donât care about those things. @nishio: I see that you think âobjectiveâ â âsubjective = inductiveâ and that asking subjective questions is not a good idea because it is inductive! @nishio. then you are wrong in your thinking. Because everyone is equally able to ask questions and is given an equal opportunity to do so. - Open up agenda-setting authority to people
@nishio: I stopped getting replies, so I thought you were bored with the conversation, but then I realized you were air-ripping me.
@shinji_kono: you canât be self-contradictory and aim for policy decisions by the majority without knowing the inverse of the Arrowâs principle. Triumph of ignorance, huh? @shinji_kono: itâs a common style to make your point with a question, but something like this Hey, hey, hey, everybody thinks so, donât they? at, He who has a minority opinion is the enemy. Iâm not sure what to think. Iâm not always in the minority, but Iâm more often in the minority. Some of it is intentional. @shinji_kono: I wrote what I wanted to say in my TWEET, so I donât need people to evaluate it by majority vote. I understand there are people who need to do that. @shinji_kono: what do you think of Arrowâs inverse logic and polis? To the extent that itâs okay because everyone can ask the question equally? I mean the relationship between Arrowâs inverse and the procedure of how the result of that question is reflected in society. @shinji_kono: of course I wouldnât hesitate to ask the question myself. Ah, well, but I guess I donât do questions in POLIS or anything like that because it just confirms that I am in the minority. It is easy to ask majority questions, but even if you do such trivial things. @shinji_kono: An example of Arrowâs inverse principle in actual politics is the tying bill. Senatorsâ votes are often decided on that ground, so they can cuddle and pass bills that the partyâs leadership wants. @shinji_kono: essentially the same as combining multiple question items. Too bad itâs so obvious. @shinji_kono: the manipulation of the majority vote is an attraction. Maybe until elementary school. There are failures. Success is vain. I also think we should try different things and copy what works.
@nishio: @shinji_kono I also added the air rip leading question. @nishio: @shinji_kono ânot knowing the inverse logic of the Arrowâ is factually incorrect. âWe donât need a majority vote to evaluate youâ You are free to think so. Only those who think it is necessary will do it. âThe relationship between how it reflects on society and Arrowâs inverse principleâ Polis is not a tool for social decision making with majority rule.
shinji_kono What do you think of the relationship between the Arrowâs inverse logic and POLIS? To the extent that it is safe because everyone can ask the question equally? I mean the relationship between the procedure of how the result of the question is reflected in society and Arrowâs inverse theorem. kuboon polis is not a voting tool, but a tool to know where your ideas stand in the world! When I ask my own questions, it is more fun to ask questions that I canât anticipate the tendency of the answers I get! shinji_kono claiming itâs not a vote by that name. I see. You can use it however you want. The people who answer are also biased, to the extent that nishio âNot a voting toolâ is an overstatement and âa tool that allows people to vote, but we are not trying to make a social choice based on a majority vote of the results of this voteâ is appropriate. I think. So I went through with the âArrowâs inverse logic is -â argument because I felt it was off the mark, but I guess I misinterpreted it as âI donât knowâ, I didnât word it well enough. shinji_kono Isnât that what you are doing because you want to change society? Of course, I am looking at it warmly. I used to do it myself. nishio By âthatâ do you mean âindividual topicsâ? Or do you mean âactivities to increase opportunities to experience Polisâ? The latter is done to improve society, the former is not. Itâs just one of many âtopics that people might be interested inâ /japol. nishio Also, my main goal is to become more familiar with the system and its operational issues by operating those topics. So, exchanges like this one are very interesting for me to record and discuss as cases that occurred as a result of Polis.
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