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  • Mr. A talks about concept X
  • Over time it gets magnified.
  • Mr. B talks about the relationship R between “expanded concept X” and concept Y
  • A later viewer gets confused by the thought that Mr. B talked about “the relationship between ‘concept X’ and Y that Mr. A talked about”.

from /villagepump/2023/02/03

  • Suppose Mr. A creates concept X, and after some time Mr. B claims that there is a relationship between concept X and concept Y.
  • Not that Mr. A would agree that “Concept X and Concept Y are related.”
    • At this time, “A’s concept X” and “B’s concept X” are not equal
    • Confusion arises by calling both of these two different concepts “Concept X”.
  • When I looked at versus the term materialism in Metaphysics - Wikipedia, I felt “Huh?” I delved into the feeling of “What?
  • So is the word “metaphysics” itself.
    • Western Zhou? appropriated the I Ching term for “metaphysics” and gave it the name “metaphysics” does not mean that Aristotle or any medieval philosopher thought there was a connection between metaphysics and the I Ching.
      • Aristotle (384-322 BC) wrote an unnamed section on “What is Being?”
      • Around 30 AC Andronicus arranged and placed it after the ta physika (book on nature)
      • Since it did not have a name, it was called ‘metapsychica’ with meta meaning ‘later’ and became metaphysics in later times.
    • Are there any philosophers making the philosophical claim that they are related?
    • Thousands of years of accumulated debt

relevance

is often the case/villagepump/sta.icon

  • I get the impression that most of the blog posts that come up on Google are on Mr. B’s side.
  • I still think it’s important to check the original source.
  • I don’t always do it because it’s costly to check the original source, but when I read what Mr. B wrote and say, “What? I don’t understand what you mean?” I feel that in some cases, it’s not because the subject matter is profound that it’s difficult to understand, but simply because the concept has become blurred over time and the links are no longer connected, making the meaning unintelligible./villagepump/nishio.icon
    • Mr. A’s opinion and Mr. B’s opinion are naturally different, but they are equated, or even Mr. B’s opinion is overestimated by the prestige of Mr. A.
    • If it’s Mr. A’s opinion I want to know, then I’d better ignore Mr. B and listen to Mr. A.

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