from Study Session 1 on “Experiential Processes and the Creation of Meaning

When talking to others

  • Accept the whole person in that moment.
  • I’ll try to use their words to describe it.
  • Putting other things on the back burner in order to focus on one thing.
    • We don’t agree on everything.”
    • Any system can be clearly expressed (formalized) in terms of a single point.
  • That “point” is not the same in relation to other things.
    • There’s another implication in the later part of the story.
    • The “different” is clear. So what is “the same”?
      • What in the world can be “that point” of “commonness” in terms of moving across several clear expressions (formulations)?
  • That’s not a public commitment.
    • nishio.iconI mean it is not a common part.
    • A strange order reacting to various explicit expressions (formulations)
      • Converting expressions is a painstaking process
    • No single consistent pattern would be able to encompass the entirety of “the point”
  • When something comes to mind, wait quietly until the words come out.
    • If you get interrupted in the middle, you forget even “exactly what you were going to say”.

Richard McKeon - Wikipedia - dialectics - functional pattern - reductionism - attributed to the fundamental unit

  • Eugene Gendlin: “We should be able to cross all three.”

phenomenology

  • Eugene Gendlin, “The Phenomenologist Had the Other Half of My Method.”
    • I knew that “a point” was a clear expression (formulation) of this.
      • nishio.iconI’d like to know the original.
    • nishio.iconHalf of the three crossings, the other half being phenomenology.
    • Criticism that Sartre and the Hegelian school did not find what Merleau-Ponty found in “function” and “refinement”.
    • hussar
    • How “conflicted approach” can “lift
      • nishio.iconThe “lifting” of “cessation” in dialectics.

Three.

  • nishio.iconIf you have three, you’re not “half”.
  • Dilthey Wilhelm Dilthey - Wikipedia - Understanding is Creation
    • For Dilthey, the experience process is understanding
    • Understanding that we are created within
    • They are examples of what it is about, because individual advances can create more of the other
      • nishio.iconYou’re talking about the IOFI principle.

https://1000ya.isis.ne.jp/1708.html Should I also explain Hegel’s story lightly? phenomenology Phenomenology - Wikipedia

Phenomenology is some kind of progress in the thinking stage

  • Experience Process and Meaning Creation Raises Seven New Advances
    • nishio.iconI want to explain what this is.

Carl Rogers

  • How new consciousness can be collated against organismic experience to validate emerging oppressions
    • He “searched for the corresponding truth.”
  • Eugene Gendlin.
    • another way
      • Instead of looking for certain experiences prior to symbolization
      • Several steps
        • It became the “Experience Process Scale.”

Carl Rogers

  • On becoming a Person

Steps Teaching Method

  • Now called Focusing.

  • Psychotherapy is failing to teach how to do it.

  • Prefer to give expertise

  • Csikszentmihalyi

  • For me, Chicxent Mihai (China) is more appropriate.

  • Questions about things

  • Many philosophers are

  • Avoiding physics for fear of bringing reductionism into philosophy

  • Avoid bringing in psychology and avoid human experiential processes.

  • Heidegger believed that everything had to be brought in.

    • nishio.iconI agree, and I think philosophers who want to create something of historical value in our time should study programming (polemic).
    • Statehood, not emotion
    • “Dwelling,” “statehood,” misunderstood.
    • Difficult to understand that “investiture” has meaning in “mood.”
    • Difficult to see that “home - thinking” is found and implemented
    • Heidegger left phenomenology and attributed events to “history”
      • As a result, the “phenomenon” has become inseparable from language and history.
      • Many people misinterpreted that as “every experience is an old idea.”
      • Heidegger believed that history occurs in “dwelling
      • Thinking-Dwelling.”
  • Phenomena are not isolated; all experience is dependent

  • Failure to assume that there is a neutral, uninterpreted “phenomenon”

    • It went on to assume that every experience derives entirely from an implicit assumption that can only be broken by discontinuity
      • nishio.iconI’m not sure, do you have the original text?
  • Overlooking illogical transitions.

  • When we understand exactly the complexity of the formation, when it transcends its form

    • When you don’t understand it, all you can do is quote it.
      • nishio.iconThat’s me right now.
    • To understand is to “dwell - think” “within” the form
      • This is a more accurate understanding than “keeping” the formality
      • nishio.icon Shuhari I associate it with
        • When you don’t understand, all you can do is follow the pattern.
        • When understood accurately, the mold is broken.
  • “Further -movement -seeking -order.”

    • nishio.iconNo, I wanted this to be written in the original language.
    • ~ is intricate and complex rather than a consistent principle
    • Has more order (order) than formed form
      • Coercively accurate feedback
  • process of experience

    • Richer and wiser than fixed forms
    • It’s called disorder.
    • It means both “no logical order”
      • The Dionysian Experience of [Nietzsche
      • More complex and sensible than the order formed
      • Disorganized, but working in an orderly fashion.
    • There is a higher order and a lower order.
      • nishio.iconScrapbox’s apparent disorder may be a higher order.
        • The lower order here is, for example, “that the page is in a folder that represents its classification.”
        • Scrapbox is richer and smarter than fixed hierarchical classifications.”
        • I have a feeling you’re right.
    • Finding “internal” differences “toward a voluntary process.
    • derrida “movement”
    • It’s not arbitrary.
    • Individual movements end up as motionless contradictions.
    • He believes that the overthrow of order is disorder.
  • When Dionysian experience works with pre-existing kinds of experience, it creates more order than ever before.

    • Not a mere lack of pre-existing order.
    • Nor is it the product of an order implicitly imposed and formed.
  • Nietzsche’s Body-Knowledge, Scheleiermacher, Dilthey, Merleau-Ponty, Heidegger

    • This order can think and study itself, an intermittent reaffirmation of
    • Such thinking is not just fuzzy [felt sense
    • The work of understanding “precisely” transcends disconnection and form (distinctions and overall patterns).

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