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Nodal Point of Thought 2022-05-25

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from Diary 2022-05-26 Nodal Point of Thought 2022-05-25 Calibration Meeting Summary

  • Looking at a phenomenon A, “This is ‘subjective’.

  • “What, then, is ‘subjectivity’?”

    • Isn’t this a strange way to ask this question?
    • You shove all the concrete phenomena into a jar of abstract concepts, jumble them up, and then say, “What is this jar?”
      • You mix all the drinks from the drink bar, and then you wonder, “What drink is this?” or “What else can I say except that it’s a drink?”
      • When you mix things up, you’ve ruined it.

  • Specific Ex.

    • When you’re trying to write something out on a sticky note, what size sticky note you choose is subjective.”
      • Sticky notes are stationery, so use what feels comfortable in your hand.
      • Sticky notes of a particular size do not have a magical effect.
      • It feels right.”
        • This is subjective
      • feel of a brush or pen
        • Some people put silicone sheets on their iPads.
      • pen sound
        • I don’t like the “squeak.”
        • I hate blackboard chalk.
        • whiteboard marker
      • corporeality
    • lingua franca
    • feeling of being killed
    • ‘If you say you are killing, I assume that means the thing before it is alive, but how is it alive?’
      • Like a plant, it sprouts, branches, and roots grow.
      • They are killing this by shoving it in a box.
      • Live trees and square blocks of wood
    • What good is it to be alive?”
      • Developments.
      • New ones are created.
    • lingua franca
      • A is X.” “Yes, X.”
        • produces nothing
      • A is X. Is it?”
        • image
        • The fact that the two X’s have different meanings allows us to delve into what is common and what is different, and it increases the resolution of the world.
        • subdivision
        • Different perspectives.

  • Some people enjoy having different points of view and others don’t.

    • If the cognitive resolution is high enough, we can see that “each person’s way of thinking is different.
    • They look “the same” because they are seen through blurred glasses.
    • Understandable = “not recognizing differences in each other.”
      • This does not mean “no difference.”
    • Some people are glad there is no difference.
    • Some people find it interesting because it’s different.
      • Interesting” is subjective and a matter of personal values.
      • Different perspectives are beneficial to creation.”
        • The idea that it is beneficial to disagree with different opinions
        • Is this another personal value?
        • Diversity also includes “not creating.”

  • What is creativity?

    • Is it creativity to paint the same picture every day?
    • If Mr. A paints a picture every day and Mr. B interprets it as “the same picture every day”.
      • In fact, for Mr. A, every day could be a new challenge.
      • Mr. B just doesn’t recognize the change.
      • It happens all the time. Parents say things like, “My kids are playing micromanagement all the time, don’t they ever get tired of doing the same thing all the time?”
        • Kids are making new things and trying new things every day.

  • Can you recognize if you have creativity?

  • Is “creativity” real in the first place?

    • Fun to make.”
    • What we make helps society.
    • The one who’s having so much fun making it.”
    • Made of.”
    • Does “creativity” itself exist that is different from these?
      • Unobservable?
    • I feel like I’m [Shove it all in the jar.

  • Convenient at first

    • I’m going to put everything that is relevant into that box.
    • A lot of stuff in the box is becoming a lot of stuff.
    • They’ll start putting things in boxes in a messy way.
    • It’s not good.
    • I think we need to get it out and reorganize it.
    • creative regress
      • Massage to relieve stiff words
      • Disassemble the finished Lego
      • Calibration?
        • Metaphor of sensor madness.
        • You won’t even know it’s buggy.
    • Difference between a box and a jar
      • Boxes are cardboard boxes that you can put things in and then take them out again.
      • Jars get mixed up with liquid, can’t get the original out.

  • The “human bug” also [Jumbled pots

    • Human G
    • Assuming a human is a bug when human behavior deviates from the algorithm assumes the algorithm is correct.

  • Difference between a two-person conversation and a three-person conversation

    • With three people, when A is done talking, there’s a lot of air-reading about whether B or C is going to speak.
    • I have a hard time reading the atmosphere.

  • If the conversation between A and B is lively, and the conversation between B and C is lively, is the conversation between A and C also lively?

    • Not necessarily, the catch can’t start without someone throwing the ball first.

  • I want a rebuttal = observations from a different point of view.

    • If it’s not the same, it can’t be anything else.
      • certainly
    • Requires trust in the other party
      • Trust is an estimate of value
    • Understanding different opinions comes at a cost, and if you don’t believe that there is value to be gained from understanding at a cost, you will not create the behavior to understand.
    • Neglected, not paying the cost, through
    • Twitter posts, countless, can’t pay the cost of all of them.
    • Yes man = one who does not speak differently.
      • Possible observation coverage issues
      • When B is a yes-man from A’s point of view, it is not that B is a yes-man, but that A may avoid giving his opinion because, from B’s point of view, A is “a person whose opinions incur annoying social costs”.

  • Is subjective estimation a human bug?

    • If it’s “a human bug that makes it impossible to estimate correctly because of subjective estimates when objective estimates are possible…”
    • But I don’t think an “objective estimate” is possible, there are too many uncertainties.
    • If neither subjective nor objective estimates are accurate, then it’s more fun to do it subjectively, and you get more out of the fun.
      • In this case, the assumption that “objective estimates must be made” bugs me.

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