Context so far - Work to open up the forest of what has yet to be written. - Semantic Annotation as “Tax Payment - Cryptocurrency as payment for work done for AI

nishio It just occurred to me that if a structure is created in which a huge LLM pays people who give it “useful information that we don’t know yet”, it is too utopian to assume that people will be engaged in creating new information. I thought that “people will be engaged in creating new information” is too utopian an assumption, and that there will be a large number of “people who will drop secret information to LLMs and turn it into money” before that happens.

  • nishio Is it utopia because we can evolve into an integrated thought body where secrets and lies do not exist? ()

0xtkgshn How do you determine what you don’t know yet? I’m wondering if you monitor the words that people put in, respond anyway, and let them rate the responses, and the low ones are the “sought-after” ones, and you give back a reward for putting in the domain knowledge there.

  • nishio It’s relatively easy to determine “what we don’t know yet” and “what is required” but difficult to determine “that the answer is not false”. Basically, I think you have to collect a lot of them and throw out the outliers.

    • nishio wanted: often asked by humans, but not well received for answers

    • What we don’t know yet (what we didn’t know yet): that we can’t output the given information by generating a question text that makes the given information the answer and letting the old version answer the question.

  • 0xtkgshn peer prediction method feeling (the very essence of crowdsourcing)

    • 0xtkgshn Slightly off topic, but I just remembered that the prediction market is not just a transaction that benefits the end user, but by looking at the convergence point of that transaction I remember that you can gather information by looking at the convergence point of the transactions. The information you get from the market is more accurate than that of a normal, well-meaning user.

  • nishio Ah, but the style of discarding the outlier would play “a truth different from most people’s expectations”


sirouto I’m sorry to ask a simple question, but would you pay a fee when you can learn for free from the internet? Even if you buy unknown information, you need credentials. For example, information that “Company A” will launch a new product next year cannot be determined to be true by machine learning of text. Rather, it is likely to take a posting fee, similar to search, and place a link ad in the AI’s response.

  • nishio This is after the information that can be learned for free from the internet has been learned and it becomes a race to find out how to get other information. There is no need for AI to do the true/false judgment, just give it to humans and let humans make the judgment on whether it is useful or not.

shima__shima Before that happens, I think there will be a lot of people spouting off random things.


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