ajtpdj Oh, did I mention it was on TV? Pro-corporal punishment and anti-physical punishment debates.
The affirmative. āIf you say it with your mouth, they wonāt listen to you, so Iāll make them understand with their bodies.ā
If you say something like thatā¦ The denialist. āSo if we physically punish you now and make you understand that with your body, youāll switch to the denialist camp?ā I remember a story where I said, āIām sorry, but Iām not going to tell you.
kajiki1980 But that would be a contradiction in terms of ācorporal punishment is still effectiveā.
hOoEUrncojynZSF: No matter how many arguments the pro-corporal punishment people make ć»Effectiveness cannot be objectively proven. ć» Decrease in the crime rate of the younger generation ć»Totsuka Yacht School, a bad example ć» Most of the people saying this are already not in a position to be hit.
āSo, you just want to do violence from a safe distance in the name of justice?ā ā¦
pow0604_game Corporal punishment may be effective as a means to āget them to do what you sayā. But from an āeducationā standpoint, it sucks. Because even if they hit you and you do what they say, you learn not that you shouldnāt do it because itās wrong, but that you shouldnāt do it because they hit you. Is this really āeducationā?
ShiworiKagesaki But thereās a sense of social punishment to contain the affirmative.
nanasekisaragi2 āIf you say it with your mouth, they wonāt listen to you if you lick them, so Iāll make them understand with my body.ā
Thatās why wars will never stop in the world.
makoto1221 There was a custom of thanking the older generation for rampant corporal punishment.
Nukumoriboy Then the naysayers lose. This discussion is about ā(1) the effectiveness of corporal punishment in education. It is not a discussion of ā(2) making people obey through pain.ā The affirmative can answer yes to that question and explain the effectiveness of (2) with examples such as torture. The problem with corporal punishment is that (2) is effective for both good and evil, and teachers are not always good.
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