2023-03-09 Purpose: I’ve been approached to write a column about ChatGPT, and I want to organize my thoughts by talking about it. Chat log with Keichobot+GPT 2023-03-09 version

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  • 2023-05-22 Kozaneba conversion

impressions

  • It was good until about halfway through, when I stopped asking questions because I felt bad about pouring over notes that weren’t in a conversational format.
  • I’m glad you asked the question about the progress of the merge with the traditional rule-based algorithm and what you see the value in.
  • The summary function could not be used because the log was 4857 tokens, slightly over the ChatGPT API token limit of 4096.
    • Manually split and summarized.
    • But if we’re getting close to the limit, maybe we could do a “it’s time to end this” kind of suggestion.

summarized by AI, refined by Human

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  • I see the value in using ChatGPT to give my ideas a clear form.
  • The authors created digital stationery, Kozaneba and Keichobot.
  • The advent of ChatGPT and AI requires a change in people’s mental models.
    • ChatGPT’s ability to provide a “different perspective” is beneficial, but many people in the world are disappointed because they expect the “truth”.
  • next action
    • Organize fragmented notes in Scrapbox
    • Consider the format of information representation by ChatGPT
  • Materials are needed to create a sentence
    • Gathering and connecting materials creates a story.
  • Writing a column is a means, not an end. The purpose is to express and communicate ideas
  • If you write sentences all over the place in Scrapbox, you can rewrite them later with different ideas. In contrast, if you are writing on paper media, once you make a decision, you cannot update it, so you need to consider its long-term value
  • Jotting down fragments of information in Scrapbox will lead to future growth.
    • Connections may be discovered by searching the Scrapbox
    • Concrete day-to-day information can be abstracted and connections discovered

summary by AI

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  • ChatGPT feels that it is valuable to have a clear formulation of their ideas.
  • The author created digital stationery and spoke about Kozaneba and Keichobot.
  • The advent of ChatGPT and AI requires a change in people’s mental models.
  • ChatGPT’s ability to provide a “different perspective” is beneficial, but many people in the world are disappointed because they expect the “truth”.
  • The next action is to compile fragmented notes in Scrapbox and discuss the format of information representation by ChatGPT.
  • While answering the question, material is needed to make a statement
  • Gathering and connecting materials creates a story.
  • Writing a column is a means, not an end. The purpose is to communicate the ideas it expresses.
  • You can write sentences all over Scrapbox and rewrite them later when you have another idea. In contrast, with writing, once a decision is made, it cannot be updated, so long-term value needs to be considered
  • Write down fragments of information in Scrapbox for future growth
  • Searching Scrapbox can abstract concrete day-to-day information and discover connections
  • End.

conversation log

/nishio/kei.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation? (GPT) /nishio/human.iconI’ve been approached to write a column about ChatGPT, and I’d like to organize my thoughts by talking about it. /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT is a type of chatbot that uses artificial intelligence to interact in natural language. /nishio/human.icon(Ignore /nishio/human.iconFirst of all, this is quite frankly like being asked to pick up chestnuts out of the fire and make a delicious chestnut dish that is different from other chefs, which is quite a reckless request. /nishio/kei.iconWhat exactly did you mean by the expression “picking up chestnuts in the fire” in your story? /nishio/human.iconTo put your hand into something that is changing at a tremendous rate right now, and to put what you take out into a paper that will be released in six months or so. /nishio/kei.iconWhen you said the word “paper,” what did you think of? /nishio/human.iconOn a related note, for a while now I’ve been asking myself, “What’s the point of writing books?” I’ve been wondering about that. /nishio/kei.iconYou asked, “What is the point of writing books?” What type of writing do you mean by “writing” that you have been struggling with? /nishio/human.iconThat’s a little vague, I’m thinking that putting the output in a place that is not open access, or trying to express things in a one-dimensional string of sentences, both of which would be outdated. /nishio/kei.iconWhen you said “enumeration,” what did you mean? /nishio/human.iconThe representation of information by arranging words in a sequence is not efficient for human beings because it was only popular because it was inexpensive to reproduce information in that format for a while after letterpress printing. /nishio/kei.iconWhen you said “express,” what specific form of expression did you mean? /nishio/human.iconIn addition to being represented by a sequence of words, there are pictures, illustrations, and sticky notes arranged two-dimensionally. /nishio/kei.iconDid you come up with any other ways to “express” yourself? /nishio/human.iconChatGPT, in essence, means that the program does the part of representing information according to the user’s needs. There is no point in creating a written representation for human reading if I myself can give the program the network of knowledge to be represented /nishio/kei.iconPlease tell us how you understand the concept of “expressing.” /nishio/human.iconIt is true that by trying to express oneself, one’s inner thoughts can take on a clearer form. However, the listener in this case does not have to be the faceless reader on the other side of the paper, but can be a chat with a trusted friend, or a chatbot that listens, as we are doing now. /nishio/kei.iconWhat is it that you value? /nishio/human.iconHe feels that it is valuable for his ideas to be given a clear form. /nishio/kei.iconWhat are the key elements behind the word “express?” /nishio/human.iconSummary. /nishio/kei.icon- ChatGPT is a program that expresses information according to user needs

  • There is no point in creating a human-read textual representation if the program is given a network of knowledge to represent.
  • I see the value in having my ideas clearly formed.
  • The listener does not have to be a faceless reader across the paper, preferring to use a chatbot that listens
  • There’s nothing to do next. /nishio/human.iconI don’t have anything to do next.” Indeed, so far, the Next Action is unclear. As for the Next Action, this kind of conversation will generate a lot of seeds of content to write about in the column. Then I’m going to finish the column by making it one-dimensional on Kozaneba. /nishio/kei.iconThe concept of “expressing” information through ChatGPT and programs was mentioned. /nishio/human.iconYeah, that’s going to be an important key word. I have other fragmentary notes of things that might be good to write in the column, so let’s talk about that next. Since this column project seems to have more than one person writing a column on a single topic, I think it is necessary to explain the author’s background. I think the one that matches this story is the author of “The Intellectual Production of Engineers. /nishio/kei.iconSince we feel that it is significant for our thoughts to take a clear form, it is desirable for us to deepen our self-understanding through expression, which will lead to personal growth. /nishio/human.iconYup. Fragmentary notes: implementation, digitization, Kozaneba, Keichobot, no more thought without implementation /nishio/kei.iconSpecifically, what actions related to “expressing” are important to you? /nishio/human.iconWe delved into methodologies to support the “expressive” acts of writing and speaking, and found the existing tools insufficient, so we created “digital stationery. /nishio/kei.iconIt is important to clarify what exactly “expressing” means, and to delve into methodologies that support this act. /nishio/human.iconAh, clarification of “expressing.” Kozaneba is a system that supports the creation of a larger story by connecting fragmented thoughts together through the digitization of KJ directions and the Kozane method. Keichobot, on the other hand, is a system that encourages verbalization by having a chatbot ask questions about what is in the mind that has not yet been verbalized /nishio/kei.iconWhen you think about the concept and methodology of what you represent, what specifically do you think will be important? /nishio/human.iconMaybe to get used to using it and becoming a transparent tool. /nishio/kei.iconIs the concept of “clarification” important relative to the concept of “representation”? /nishio/human.iconyeah /nishio/kei.iconKozaneba is a system that supports the creation of a larger story by connecting fragmented thoughts in the electronic form of KJ directions and the Kozane method, but what specific features does it have? /nishio/human.iconKJ direction is typo, KJ method. Also, Kozaneba is off-topic for the subject of this column, so I think it would make the cut even if it were inflated. keichobot was rule-based until just a few days ago, but it was really powered up by ChatGPT. /nishio/kei.iconWhat other specific features does Kozaneba offer? /nishio/human.icon👎Kozaneba /nishio/kei.iconKeichobot, enhanced by ChatGPT from rule-based chatbots, is a system that facilitates verbalization. /nishio/human.iconYes, I know. And a few fragmentary notes related to that: Meta released LLaMa, 2/24, which is more powerful than GPT3 even if the model size is 1/10; OpenAI released its ChatGPT API, 3/1, which costs 1/10; 3/4, I was approached for a column; 3/4, I was asked to write a column; 3/4, I was asked to write a column; 3/4, I was asked to write a column. It’s like pulling chestnuts out of a burning fire and asking them to make a chestnut dish that won’t be covered by other cooks. /nishio/kei.iconIs there anything else you would like to share in relation to “ChatGPT?” /nishio/human.iconFragmentary note: LLM, the new electronic calculator, Prolog, the majority of PC users do not understand how the computer in front of them is performing calculations and how to obtain useful results for themselves. /nishio/kei.iconSince you have background on the word “memo,” what specific memo are you referring to? /nishio/human.iconI recorded what came to my mind when I heard about the column. /nishio/kei.iconWhat exactly do you mean by “columns” in your note? /nishio/human.iconPlanning on ChatGPT. continued: Command Prompt
  • Scary black screen.
  • Copy and paste a one-line command as is, or change the parameters.
  • Writing Shell Scripts /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT” is an artificial intelligence based dialogue system and I know this based on the information you have given me. /nishio/human.iconJiro Kawakita
  • All data is false.

Denovo Point out AI mistakes. People who want to feel superior to homo sapiens. People who want to gain knowledge, make judgments, and be kind. I want a point of view.

Drucker. Knowledge must be proven by action. Action and Verification Cycle of Learning from Actions How to Turn Fast PDCA Cycle. lean /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT is online. But judging from the context of the question and the “project about ChatGPT”, I assume you are talking about what you would do with the tool, correct? /nishio/human.iconYes, it is. I am now trying to pour through the fragmented notes once they are in place. /nishio/kei.iconDo you have questions about the information you wrote down, like “Jiro Kawakita,” “de novo,” or “Drucker?” /nishio/human.iconNot available now. Continued, Scrapbox and ChatGPT. this memo is about not knowing what is the appropriate format for information representation that should be fed into ChatGPT, but Scrapbox is probably close to the right answer. /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT is an artificial intelligence-based dialogue system developed by OpenAI. /nishio/human.iconScrapbox can make associations indelible by writing links, Memex-like. Also, bulleted items may be better passed on to ChatGPT. This was pointed out by Mr. Aoyama. /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT” exists online. /nishio/human.iconThis is a brief paragraph. Question. /nishio/kei.iconWhat exactly do you think needs to be done regarding “ChatGPT” in your opinion? /nishio/human.iconHmmm, what do we need? Maybe the human side needs to learn how to deal with this new entity. A change in mental models. /nishio/kei.iconIn response to “ChatGPT,” I feel that humans need to learn how to deal with this new entity, so there needs to be a change of mindset on the part of humans. /nishio/human.iconSummary. /nishio/kei.icon- I was approached to write a column about ChatGPT.

  • ChatGPT sees the value in expressing information in a way that is tailored to the user’s needs, so that his or her ideas can take a clear form.
  • We created “digital stationery” to support the expressive acts of writing books and giving lectures.
  • Keichobot is now more powerful with ChatGPT.
  • The emergence of new technologies and systems requires changes in human mental models.
  • Q: With the advent of ChatGPT and AI, what are the lessons people need to learn? /nishio/human.iconIt’s Jiro Kawakita’s “All data is a lie.” Some people expect AI to give them the right answer and are disappointed when it doesn’t. Expecting such a thing is not right in the first place. /nishio/kei.iconWhat did you notice about what Jiro Kawakita said about ‘all data is a lie’ and what you said about expectations and disappointments?” /nishio/human.iconJiro Kawakita believed that since everything has the potential for error, it is important to gather information from different perspectives to make a decision. I think ChatGPT’s ability to provide “different viewpoints” is beneficial. However, I thought it was funny that many people in the world expect the ability to provide “truth” and are disappointed because it is not actually there! /nishio/kei.iconIts “ChatGPT” is a dialogue system that can express information according to user needs using artificial intelligence. /nishio/human.iconQuestion. /nishio/kei.iconThe “ChatGPT” claims to be one of the most useful tools for drawing conclusions by providing people’s opinions and perspectives. /nishio/human.iconYes, I do. Question. /nishio/kei.iconWhat more specifically do you want to address about the “column” you would like to write? /nishio/human.iconBy outputting them in this way, and then chopping them into fragments and using Kozaneba, a story is born from within that network of fragments. /nishio/kei.iconIt refers to taking a thought or idea that you have taken in fragments and expressing it in a tangible form. This is how the story or the big picture is created. /nishio/human.icon(You’re getting a little dim
 /nishio/human.iconQuestion. /nishio/kei.iconHow did your talk about “columns” come about as a result of your exposure to this concept of “columns”? /nishio/human.iconThat’s an abstract and difficult question. Let’s see, how did it arise as a result of contact? I was approached to write a column, which means that here the demand for language for a particular situation was clarified. In response to this demand, fragments of information bubble up from my brain. Some of them are in the form of sentences, while others are still in the form of fragments. After writing this down, it would normally be structured directly in Kozaneba, but since this column is about ChatGPT and I had just improved Keichobot using the ChatGPT API, I thought I’d put it in Keichobot. I haven’t checked now, but this chat log must contain information that was not in the original memo, and these were created by the “put it in Keichobot” approach to contact /nishio/kei.iconThe “column” is a clarification of the demand for language and fragmentary information that emerged as a result of being approached, and since this column is about ChatGPT, it can be said that the content deals primarily with ChatGPT as a keyword. /nishio/human.iconYeah. Question. /nishio/kei.iconKeichobot has been improved using the ChatGPT API and may be useful for verbalizing fragmented information, but we have not heard any other specific details about its function or use. /nishio/human.iconThat seems off-topic for this column, but right now this conversation is being exchanged on a smartphone while walking along a riverside promenade. /nishio/kei.iconThat “column” has not yet been written. /nishio/human.iconYes. First, you must gather the material. If you start writing without that, you will end up writing while creating fragments that satisfy the demand of a very narrow view of “how to write the rest of the story,” which is a lot of work. /nishio/kei.iconPlease tell us more about what kind of materials you use. /nishio/human.iconThese are the ingredients that make a story. It is the connections between them that make the story. Those who begin writing without preparing the materials will struggle to twist the materials that lead to the tip of the story they have written. Instead, they must first gather the material, connect what connects, create a network, and then decide what path to follow. /nishio/kei.iconWe are still in the process of not writing. We are in the process of gathering material and creating a story. /nishio/human.iconYeah. Question. /nishio/kei.iconKeichobot” is the name of the Chatbot referred to in this text and not a specific location. /nishio/human.iconHmmm, well, it exists because it is offered as an online service. But it’s still a closed beta, so I’m not sure readers can access it. /nishio/kei.iconKeichobot is not a specific location, but rather an online chatbot that uses the ChatGPT API. /nishio/human.iconYes. Question. /nishio/kei.iconThese “memos” are bubbles of information that emerged from the author’s own mind in response to the specific circumstances of being approached for the column, and some of these memos have taken shape as text, while others are still in fragmentary form. /nishio/human.iconYes, it is. Summary. /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT is a language-generating AI, while “express” means to communicate ideas and thoughts using words and diagrams. is only one way to “express” the concept of “expressing”. /nishio/human.iconRight. Question. /nishio/kei.iconThe term “form” refers to the state of the information written down, which includes both information in the form of sentences and information still in the form of fragments. /nishio/human.iconThat’s another interesting point of view. What is “form”? When it’s in your head, it feels “unformed” because it can’t be communicated. That is because it cannot be transmitted. If it is written down in the form of fragments, it can be communicated. However, it is difficult to convey what you want to say to others. It is easier to convey what you want to say when it is in the form of a sentence. But it is still not enough to release it in the form of a column. As I write this, I realize that the “column” form is just a request that happened to be made this time, but it is not the only goal. Usually, I tend to take the form of “implementation. This leads me to “No thought without implementation. /nishio/kei.iconThis means that it is a form of writing in which several people write about the same topic, and it is one of the means by which they express their ideas. /nishio/human.iconYes, the goal is to express the ideas you want to express within the constraints of writing on the subject, and writing a column is a means, not an end. Which reminds me, I was going to mention Mr. Qualia if I could, now I remember. /nishio/kei.iconIt is a relationship in which the act of “expressing” is a means directed toward the goal of writing a column. /nishio/human.iconCorrect. Things are not dichotomized into ends and means, but a network of chained arrows. /nishio/kei.iconIt is a complex set of connections that link related concepts, ideas, and information. /nishio/human.iconYes, so from that layered perspective, a project that aims to achieve an objective and writing that creates a story are actually the same structure! /nishio/kei.iconWhat do you consider important when you are writing? /nishio/human.iconOkay, that’s certainly an important question. Usually when I am writing all over Scrapbox, I aim to promptly give it shape, and preparing fragments is rare. And yet, when it comes to writing this column, I am preparing in the same way I prepare for writing a book or preparing for a lecture. So the mode of mind is clearly switching, and why is that? That’s duration. Scrapbox can be written messily first, and then rewritten later as other ideas arise. On the other hand, this type of writing is fixed at some point and cannot be updated. So I want it to be something that retains value over the long term. I mean, what I think is important is that it’s something that has long-term value at the time of the deadline. /nishio/kei.iconThe relationship between “fragments” and “columns” can be thought of as complementary: “fragments” are collected as the story material needed to produce a column, and stories are created by piecing them together. /nishio/human.iconComplementary? Well, in a way it’s complementary: there’s a column project that asks you to write something about ChatGPT, so many fragments are created to fill in the holes, then the fragments are connected to create something with a few more holes, then fragments are created to fill in the remaining holes, and when the two meet, it’s complete. And when the two meet, it is complete. /nishio/kei.iconChatGPT and columns are different things, but does that mean that ChatGPT may be handled in columns? /nishio/human.iconYeah. /nishio/kei.iconIs there anything about “fragments” that we can do to consciously contribute to their growth? /nishio/human.iconIf Keichobot asks a question of a fragment, the answer to that question is the growth of the fragment. If a human being were to do this, he or she could ask the words contained in the fragment, “What is this? Or you can show it to others and listen to their reactions. /nishio/kei.iconThe “fragments” are in Scrapbox and Keichobot. /nishio/human.iconI like the idea of searching Scrapbox. /nishio/kei.iconFragments occur in the brain. /nishio/human.iconBy writing down the fragments that occur in the brain in Scrapbox, they can be used for future growth. /nishio/kei.iconWhat kind of ideas and information material are you referring to? /nishio/human.iconIf concrete daily information is placed in a slightly abstracted form, connections are discovered by Scrapbox by matching the abstraction with the concrete information of that day on another day. /nishio/kei.iconScrapbox is an online notebook-like tool that allows users to freely write their ideas, notes, and information. /nishio/human.icon(It’s time to end this.

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