When everyone is coming up with different ideas and they are not in unison, I make a pizza without any ingredients, claiming that “we need to make the pizza base first before thinking about the pizza toppings”.
It looks like you are very enthusiastic about making a pizza without any ingredients, but it’s not that I like a pizza without any ingredients. Once the base of the pizza is made and you decide to bake the pizza, you can finally put your favorite toppings on it.
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