from Polis: Discussing the Causes of Terrorism Log of Discussion on Interpretation Swings on Polis: Investigating the Causes of Terrorism

hrjn Iā€™m in the ā€œI have no desire to understand the logic of people who commit terrorismā€ faction, but I guess everyone thinks they can cozy up to me.

  • hrjn No, well, I donā€™t think we can understand others in the first place, so we should find common interests through dialogue.

  • hrjn Sandelā€™s justice is based on the fact that the common good can be found. Since neither utilitarian justice nor libertarian justice can avoid conflict, he says that justice can only be found in what we do with the common good.

  • I am close to this idea. Iā€™m in the ā€œI donā€™t think I can understand the logic of a terrorist at allā€ faction, but I guess we all think we can stand by each otherā€¦

  • nishio ā€œI think we can all lean on each otherā€ is an unfounded interpretation (no opinion poll with that content).

  • Iā€™ll post that opinion later and make it an actual observation.

    • hrjn If you look at this and see whatā€™s in it, A generally says that it can be solved by pursuing the cause or motive, so ā€œeveryoneā€ thinks it can be solved by ā€œunderstanding = leaning onā€ the cause or motive. I think you mean that ā€œeveryoneā€ thinks it can be solved based on ā€œunderstanding = leaning onā€ causes and motives.

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    • @nishio: @hrjn ā€œUnderstanding causes and motives = leaning inā€ is the interpretation. Probably False.

      • @nishio: @hrjn and I see value in it as a system that produces zintages like this.

      • Interpretations are validated by observational data.

    • @hrjn: @nishio If ā€œleaned inā€ was the wrong word, then my intention is to be able to understand the cause and motivation.

    • @nishio: @hrjn That would be a swing in the meaning of ā€œunderstandā€.

    • @hrjn: @nishio What is shaking.

    • @hrjn: @nishio Assuming there was a swing in the ā€œunderstandingā€ of the crowd,

    • ā‘ I donā€™t think polis expresses the semantics swing because it synthesizes and maps the positives and negatives of the superficial string.

      1. If the interpretation of the surface layer is blurred due to the characteristic of classifying by surface expression, I feel that the mapping loses its meaning.
    • @nishio: @hrjn Itā€™s simple, the assumption in (2) is True. That is, peopleā€™s usage of the term is of course blurred, so ā€œa snapshot of the distribution at a point in timeā€ has no ā€œreliable meaningā€. It means that there is value in the ā€œprocess of improvementā€ as the distribution is updated as the current swing becomes observable data.

  • If ā€œleaned onā€ was the wrong word, my intention is to be able to understand causes and motivations.ā€
    • @hrjn: @nishio So to write it properly, what I meant was ā€œI wonder how many people think they can understand the motives and causes of people who commit terrorismā€ @hrjn: @nishio

    • @kazuho: @hrjn @nishio With the question, for example, I thought that someone who seems to think ā€œwe need to check for influence of foreign intelligence agenciesā€ might also be willing to ā€œunderstand the causes I thought ā€œunderstanding the causes and motivesā€ would be a good answer!

    • @nishio: @kazuho @hrjn good good good, Iā€™ll add it later

    • @nishio: @kazuho @hrjn When any opinion is preceded by ā€œletā€™s observe the distribution of everyoneā€™s opinionsā€ instead of ā€œI agree, I disagreeā€ The system is guided toward productive discussion, not fighting.


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