/nishio/kei.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation? /nishio/human.iconHopefully some thoughts will develop on the relationship between motivational systems and Keichobot. /nishio/kei.iconWhat kind of “Keichobot” is this “Keichobot”? /nishio/human.iconA system that encourages concretization by asking questions /nishio/kei.iconWhat kind of “system” is this “system”? /nishio/human.iconA motivational system is a system that motivates by asking questions and giving advice. I think it’s a little related to asking questions and being specific. /nishio/kei.iconIs there anything else you can tell us about that “system”? /nishio/human.iconMotivation systems have been used to a point, but I’m beginning to question my basic premise. I think the assumption that there is such a thing as “motivation,” that the problem is the lack of it, and that all you have to do is produce it, is false. /nishio/kei.iconWhat is it that you value? /nishio/human.iconIt is good if people spend time with a pleasant feeling and produce output that is socially valuable. Motivation has nothing to do with it. Motivation for a task that produces garbage will only produce garbage efficiently. /nishio/kei.iconWhat kind of “motivation” is that? /nishio/human.iconImaginary resources that many people assume exist /nishio/kei.icon

  • Motivational systems have been used to a point, but I’m beginning to question my basic premise. I think the assumption that there is such a thing as “motivation,” that the problem is the lack of it, and that it’s enough to get it going, is false.

  • Where is this “system” located? /nishio/human.iconWhen I made this, I didn’t have the concept of serverless yet and realized the app with static delivery and GoogleAnalytics. If we rebuilt it now, we could take richer information for each user and give more appropriate advice. /nishio/kei.icon
  • Motivational systems have been used to a point, but I’m beginning to question my basic premise. I think the assumption that there is such a thing as “motivation,” that the problem is the lack of it, and that it’s enough to get it going, is false.

  • How do you know this “system”? /nishio/human.iconI was going to collect data and do machine learning. It turned out to be just an if statement. /nishio/kei.icon
  • It is good if people spend time with a pleasant feeling and produce output that is socially valuable. Motivation has nothing to do with it. Motivation for a task that produces garbage will only produce garbage efficiently.

  • Is there anything else you can tell us about this “motivation”? /nishio/human.iconWhen the tasks to be done are not clear, or there are multiple tasks to be done but the priorities are not clear, etc., you will not be able to move forward. When this is solved, the user will be able to move forward. Users sometimes express this as “I’m not motivated” or “I want to be motivated,” but that is a statement that does not grasp their own needs, similar to “I want a fast horse. /nishio/kei.iconWhat does that “motivation” seem to be? /nishio/human.iconThere are a number of factors that “impede progress.” The presence of these is vaguely described as “lack of motivation. Motivation” is the opposite of that, a shadow of /nishio/kei.iconWhere does this “motivation” come from? /nishio/human.iconRemoving obstacles /nishio/kei.icon
  • There are a number of “factors preventing progress”. The presence of them is vaguely described as “lack of motivation”. Motivation” is the opposite concept of that, a shadow of

  • How do you know you are “motivated” to do this? /nishio/human.iconI’ve used Keichobot myself for various purposes, and feel that it has been “very beneficial to the progress of the project” by breaking down tasks that are too large or breaking the balance of priorities, which I think is what we need. /nishio/kei.iconWhat kind of “task” is this “task”? /nishio/human.iconWhat to do. Often there are times when it is not clear what to do. Sometimes there is more than one, and then one can only do one at a time, so one must choose /nishio/kei.icon
  • There are a number of “factors preventing progress”. The presence of them is vaguely described as “lack of motivation”. Motivation” is the opposite concept of that, a shadow of

  • Where is this “motivation”? /nishio/human.iconIt’s like a porthole, it doesn’t exist. /nishio/kei.icon
  • Motivational systems have been used to a point, but I’m beginning to question my basic premise. I think the assumption that there is such a thing as “motivation,” that the problem is the lack of it, and that it’s enough to get it going, is false.

  • Where is this “system” located? /nishio/human.iconI have yet to find a system anywhere that combines a motivational system with a system that asks questions and provides clarification. /nishio/kei.iconWhat is the relationship between its “motivation” and its “system”? /nishio/human.iconThe system solves the impeded state. /nishio/kei.iconWhat would you like to see happen with respect to that “system”? /nishio/human.iconIt’s not yet clear how to combine them, so it would be nice to know. /nishio/kei.iconWhat needs to happen to the “system” for that to happen? /nishio/human.iconNeed to clarify what needs to be clarified by the question. /nishio/kei.icon
  • The system solves the impeded state.

  • What does this “system” look like?

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