What would you like to see happen in this conversation? Ready for results debriefing What kind of âpreparationâ is that âpreparationâ? Speaking at presentations and exhibiting on oVice What kind of âpresentationâ is that âpresentationâ? Five minutes to talk about past history and stuff for people who donât know. What is the âbackgroundâ of this âbackgroundâ? Like, why did you create this Keichobot? What kind of âKeichobotâ is this âKeichobotâ? Thinking support software that allows you to formulate your thoughts by answering questions in a chat format. What kind of âchat formatâ is this âchat formatâ? The program asks questions and you answer them. What is its âshapeâ? đ type What kind of âprogramâ is this âprogramâ? Extract keywords from the userâs input, determine which keywords are best to drill down on, and fit them into a question template and return them. What kind of âquestionâ is that âquestionâ? Questions that emphasize not distorting the speakerâs thinking, created with reference to a technique called symbolic modeling. What kind of âthoughtsâ are those âthoughtsâ? Or rather, there are already âmetaphors that have not yet been verbalizedâ in the speakerâs mind, and we help to bring them out in the form of words without distorting them. What kind of âas yet unarticulated metaphorâ is that âas yet unarticulated metaphorâ? A structure created in the speakerâs mind from past experiences, which often takes the form of a metaphor during the verbalization stage. What kind of âmetaphorâ is this âmetaphorâ? The concept of metaphor is abstract, but do I need to explain this to you to get the point across? Indeed. Is there anything else you can tell us about that âmetaphorâ? When things are verbalized, they do not always come out in a form that can be understood by others, but first come out in the form of personal metaphors, which cannot be understood by others as they are, so they are not useful as âtools for communication,â but they are useful as âtools for thinking,â as they have a handle to manipulate your vague thoughts. It is useful as a âthinking toolâ because it is like a handle to manipulate oneâs vague thoughts. Where is the âmetaphorâ? Weâre just coming up out of the sea of âwhat has yet to be verbalizedâ that comes out of the userâs mind. What is it that you value? I think that putting thoughts into words is very useful, and groupware supports sharing âwhat is put into wordsâ but does not support âputting into wordsâ itself.
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When things are verbalized, they do not always come out in a form that can be understood by others, but first come out in the form of personal metaphors, which cannot be understood by others as they are, so they are not useful as âtools for communication,â but they are useful as âtools for thinking,â as they have a handle to manipulate your vague thoughts. It is useful as a âthinking toolâ because it is like a handle to manipulate oneâs vague thoughts.
- How do you know this âmetaphorâ? As we talk, I realize, âOh, this is just like that one.
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When things are verbalized, they do not always come out in a form that can be understood by others, but first come out in the form of personal metaphors, which cannot be understood by others as they are, so they are not useful as âtools for communication,â but they are useful as âtools for thinking,â as they have a handle to manipulate your vague thoughts. It is useful as a âthinking toolâ because it is like a handle to manipulate oneâs vague thoughts.
- Where is this âmetaphorâ? While you are talking, you swim close to the surface of the ocean of âwhat has not yet been verbalized,â and you imagine scooping it up with a flick of your hand. What kind of âverbalizationâ is this âverbalizationâ? The metaphor handle is added after the fact: âWe talked about a lot of things, but metaphorically speaking, itâs like something likeâŠâ What would you like to see happen with respect to that âmetaphorâ? It would be good if it were better known that the process of verbalization is often accelerated by the creation of personal metaphors, and that the creation of these personal metaphors can be accelerated with the assistance of this software. What needs to happen to the âmetaphorâ for that to happen? The concept of âmetaphorâ is abstract and difficult for the uninitiated to grasp, so it needs to be made easier to grasp. Can you do that with regard to âmetaphorâ? I donât know, never thought about it, worth the challenge.
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The concept of âmetaphorâ is abstract and difficult for the uninitiated to grasp, so this itself needs to be made easier to grasp.
- What does this âmetaphorâ look like? I guess I need to be able to explain that. So far, Iâve been thinking of âthe object to scoop upâ and not âthe fishâ, but I canât pinpoint the part where scooping up the fish makes it easier to verbalize it. Is there anything else you can tell us about this âverbalizationâ? If verbalization is âmaking words understandable to others,â then âmaking wordsâ comes first, and then refining them into a form that others can understand comes later. How do you know its âverbalizationâ? You can tell if youâve been able to put it into words that others can understand by throwing it at them and seeing if they catch it. What kind of âwordâ is that âwordâ? hmm
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The concept of âmetaphorâ is abstract and difficult for the uninitiated to grasp, so this itself needs to be made easier to grasp.
- Where does this âmetaphorâ come from? If youâre talking about where personal metaphors come from, itâs from personal experience. If youâre talking about where the notion that metaphors are important came from [Eugene Gendlin. What kind of âconceptâ is this âconceptâ? I think it would be better to summarize Eugene Gendlin once in Scrapbox rather than chatting about this now. What kind of âspeakingâ is this âspeakingâ?
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