from [/villagepump/dogmatic meditation commentary](https://scrapbox.io/villagepump/dogmatic meditation commentary).
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Iâve been in discussions with well-wishers where weâve gone, âWell, thatâs vipassana meditation,â but thereâs no coherent explanation for meditation in the first place.
- Different denominations say different things. that are different in different sects
- It would be nice to have a commentary that separates it from a specific religion.
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Iâm not a beaner or do as Iâm told, but I think itâs beneficial, so I felt it would be beneficial if I could verbalize what needs to be done and what I think is beneficial.
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You might want to forget about that whole âcoming to nothingâ thing.
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Itâs not like you can become nothing by being told to become nothing. - [Donât think about elephants.
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People who say things like that are just [Simply a poor explanation.
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First, we need to understand what the current situation is.
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I think I am in a state where words are coming out of me more and more, even without external stimuli.
- There seem to be a lot of those types of people at the well.
- I think they feel pain about not recording what comes to mind and just letting it disappear.
- Just record what you want to record.
- It is a state of âattachment to an ideaâ that makes it painful for the idea to disappear, but Lose your attachments. is not easy
- So you should just give up once and for all to continue meditating.
- Iâm letting go of my attachment to the meditation side of things because my attachment to âI want to be the one who keeps meditatingâ is clashing with my attachment to âthe thought that came to me.â
- Thereby eliminating âthe fear that something of value will disappear.
- You canât meditate when youâre in pain or fear of disappearing, so you might as well just stop.
- As for this record, I think it would be better to write it in a private, private project, because I think that if itâs a public project, I would be concerned about what others would think of it.
- This way I could just record my thoughts for days and time might move on.
- I havenât been in meditation for any length of time.
- But is it about getting into meditation in the first place?
- Isnât âI must be able to meditateâ an obsession?
- You donât have to go into meditation, but thatâs fine, because the records of value are building up and up and up and up.
- Donât worry, there will come a time when you run out of words while doing this.
- Sometimes I think, âIâve written this before,â or âThis is an idea that doesnât need to be recorded.â
- The speed at which they are processed outweighs the speed at which they come up with the idea.
- Just record what you want to record.
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Eventually, a state of no thought will come.
- Itâs hard to explain this condition in words.
- Spiritual awakening cannot be experienced with words and letters ăéŁæłăă
- Onomatopoeic term for âSoongâŠâ Something like.
- I think itâs futile to call this âmindlessâ and tell people to âbe mindless.â
- You have to experience it to understand it.
- It puts you in a state of mind where youâre thinking, âIâll never be at peace.â
- Once you experience that state, the next time youâll know, âOh, that.
- It becomes, âI can be mindless, because I have been able to in the past.â
- The first time you experience it, âOh, now!â it will be broken by a feeling of âOh, my God!
- After repeating it over and over again, the mind becomes less and less motivated about going into that state itself, and it becomes possible to continue for a long time.
- We call this quiet state Samatha Meditation.
- What this term refers to also varies from denomination to denomination.
- Itâs hard to explain this condition in words.
- Spiritual awakening cannot be experienced with words and letters ăéŁæłăă
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To use an analogy, the surface of a lake is like a still surface.
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Stop the wind where it used to blow and make waves, and after a while the surface of the water will be smooth.
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After a while in this state, words and feelings suddenly come to the surface, as if bubbles are rising from the water.
- It is interesting to think about why this feeling came up.
- The reason I donât usually have that thought is that there are so many things coming up that I donât see each one as a crush.
- Once quiet, it allows us to pay attention to what has come up.
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For example, suddenly, I can think of a counterargument that says, âThe last time Mr. A said X, he was wrong. Because it is Y.â A counterargument may come to mind.
- The reason why this happened is because I was unconsciously angry about that statement of his.
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This is a step forward in state of mind.
- Until then, my emotions and myself were one and the same.
- When the emotion was occurring, it was me, but
- Here, emotions have turned into objects of observation.
- Itâs divided into two parts: the emotion and the self that observes it.
- This is called associate.
- Until then, my emotions and myself were one and the same.
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Observing the emotions that come up as the subject
- After doing this several times, knowledge about what emotions can occur and what are the factors that cause them to occur will increase
- You will be able to Observe yourself better.
- Then you will be able to Notice the occurrence of emotions. even in your daily life when you are not in a meditative state.
- We call this vipassana meditation.
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Q: Does meditation bring sleep or power nap effects (restoring attention resources)?
- Or maybe itâs not recovery, but [dogmatic meditation commentary63a7eb65aff09e0000b11615
- A: I donât think there is a hardware restoration of function like sleep
- I think the ratio of âstimulus-driven thoughtsâ to âspontaneous thoughtsâ will change as we reduce the amount of stimuli from a state of âdistractionâ from the outside world.
- More thoughts about what I want to think about.
- I think some people interpret this as âI can now focus my attention on what I want to focus on, my attention resources have been restored.â
- To use an analogy, itâs like âI had too many apps open that I didnât want, they were crunchy, and when I closed the ones I didnât want, they started running smoothly.
- Computer performance has not improved.
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I was just thinking about ~~â âI heard the sound of ~~â â Nothing much happens when you do this kind of so-called labeling.
- Ah, I see, care for those who need a pre-samatha.
- There are already [people who are painted with strong emotions.
- As an extreme example, consider someone who thinks, âWhat if I die tomorrow?â
- Even if you block that person from information, you keep suffering by regenerating the feelings you have.
- I keep thinking, âWhat if I die tomorrow?
- Not entering a state of samatha meditation.
- So, with such a person, you need to keep oneâs head busy and â[Peel away the emotions that are stuck on you right now.
- One way to do that is labeling, but thatâs not the only way.
- For example, chanting unintelligible sutras or repeating prayer to Amitabha.
- This is something thatâs done all the time.
- When I feel anxious or fearful, I do something like âNamandabu namandabuâŠ
- For example, you can count prime numbers, recite pi, or challenge yourself to see if you can say 151 Pokemon!
- The point is, anything that can take up brain resources with non-harmful thoughts and prevent harmful thoughts from taking place is good.
- Some people may get into labeling well and speedily go to a state of Vipassana meditation, but in general, I think itâs difficult, the task is too complicated.
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- Chanting memorized material is beneficial because it provides knowledge
- If you enter a meditative state as a result, you kill two birds with one stone.
- You know, like doing Anki in an unobtrusive way.
- Another famous one is observing a number of breaths (in Chinese medicine).
- Live-streaming your breath.
- I guess you could say itâs a slightly easier version of labeling.
- Consciousness of walking
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When you are conscious of your delicate senses, you cannot think this or that in your head first.
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You will feel that only the senses are being manifested.
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Ego-consciousness fades.
- walking zen | Enkakuji Temple, the head temple of the Rinzai sect of Zen Buddhism
- This is one of them.
- walking zen | Enkakuji Temple, the head temple of the Rinzai sect of Zen Buddhism
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- Q: Do I have to keep going until it peels off?
- For example, if you do 63a7f0e6aff09e0000b1163a for 30 minutes and peel it off, it feels like itâs going to come back to bite you when you stop.
- They donât peel off permanently.
- Of course, it goes away spontaneously without doing anything (not so with stubbornly strong emotions like hatred?). But even then, it can still recede for a few days or so. Itâs hard to wait for it to disappear naturally. I want to get rid of it as soon as possible.
- If we were to call it an âact of stripping,â what is the best way to tackle the act of stripping?
- 1: About 10 minutes a day, every day.
- 2: Cram as much as possible into one day
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- I couldnât stop certain feelings from âpeeling offâ and they kept coming back,ç掻ă«æŻéăăăç¶æ
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- There were no psychiatrists in the Buddhaâs time.
- Weâre here now, and in some situations there are means of control through medication, so itâs better to leave those âdifficult casesâ to the experts.
- [If it doesnât interfere with your life, you can think, âI tend to get caught up in such feelings,â and accept it as a normal thing to do.
- Itâs not that I want to be liberated and become a Buddha.
- If we can coexist without too much pain, so be it.
- In general, when you can ârecognizeâ an emotion as something separate from you, itâs like âOh, itâs back again đ€â or âLetâs say good-bye again đ€â, and then you start to go through with it, and you feel less suffering.
- I remember this topic.
- [/marshmallow-rm/depression has left me with a sticky, scarcely-there feeling. When I get depressed it can get tangled up in my legs and I canât move](https://scrapbox.io/marshmallow-rm/depression has left me with a sticky, scarcely-there feeling. When I get depressed it can get tangled up in my legs and I canât move).
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Donât try to make sense of the memories and feelings that come at you or put them under your control (if you do this, they will control you), and donât get angry at them by saying things like, âYouâve ruined my life,
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Just
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âHello, hello again.â
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and just say hello.
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âIâm in a bit of a hurry, so Iâll leave you with this.â
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and itâs like shifting your attention (and hopefully your body) to something else.
- Oh, yeah, here./sta/ććżăăăźăŻăăăă
- Well, this is all 63a7e0e3aff09e0000b115e5.
- You canât become nothing by being told to become nothing, and you canât stop reacting by being told not to react.â
- Youâre absolutely right, and theyâre not asking you to do that out of the blue.
- Would it be easier to understand if we divided it into levels?
- Level 1: Immediate response to stimuli
- Level 2: After responding to a stimulus, you realize you have responded
- Level 3: After reacting to a stimulus, notice what you reacted to and the stimulus that caused it
- There are already real benefits in this area.
- For example, if you notice that you get angry when you see a certain kind of person on Twitter, you can mute them.
- Not âbecome less angry,â but âStep away from the cause.â
- Level 4: As soon as you see a stimulus, you realize that it âprovokes a responseâ.
- The faster you become aware, the more it happens before the âreactionâ and then you can stop the âreactionâ.
- Iâm writing this and this is not always possible, sometimes itâs 1-3
- Sometimes 4 occurs and itâs like, âOh, thank God I didnât have to react extra.
- art of self-defense ă ăȘă
- No. Law Concerning the Protection of Spiritual Liberty and the Promotion of Social Welfare?
- I thought, âCool,â separating it from âProtective Spirit/Divine Law.â
- In my case, I am aware that I âcanâ generate Levels 2-4 after a Level 1 reaction.
- Itâs like a high probability of âNo, I know in my head I shouldnât react, but Iâm disgusted by what Iâm disgusted byâ.
- I feel like I canât stand it.
- When Iâm close to someone, I often get up to complain to my neighbor about household noises.
- I wonder if itâs because I havenât been able to stop level 1 itself?
- No, you mean mute them or take other actions to keep them away.
- Itâs like a high probability of âNo, I know in my head I shouldnât react, but Iâm disgusted by what Iâm disgusted byâ.
- I remember this topic.
- Quite informative.
- In my case, I tend to forget to rely on doctors (if anything, I have a mysterious âI canât rely on doctorsâ) + âI absolutely must get rid of these unusual feelings at all costs! (if anything, a mysterious belief that âI canât rely on them!â) + âI absolutely must get rid of these unusual feelings at all costs!â both ⊠- I donât want to rely on doctors.
Q: Is Sauna to get in shape meditation? A: I donât do it very often, but the concept of tensing up in the sauna and water bath and then relaxing in the open air bath is similar to Kundalini Meditation.
- I mean the part about being in a daze in the open air is in a state of samatha.
- Iâm ready!â donât know because I havenât experienced it.
- There is a sense of pleasure in absorbing oneself in something, or union with God due to ecstasy.
- As for the sense of union with God, I donât put much emphasis on that.
from [/sta/samata meditation#63a8f3d979d3a90000876896](https://scrapbox.io/sta/samata meditation#63a8f3d979d3a90000876896)
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Isnât it impossible to ârecognizeâ the âstate of not thinkingâ?
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Is the act of recognition not also âthinkingâ?
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For example, in a situation where youâre washing the hood of your car.
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I noticed (and recognized) bird droppings on it.
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Suppose you scrubbed with more detergent.
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In this process.
- A: A person with nothing in particular on his mind, a quiet mind.
- B: âOh, thereâs bird poop on it!â (who immediately returns to a quiet mind again, thinking, âIâm going to go back to my quiet mind.
- C: âOh, thereâs bird poop on it! Damn it! Youâre adding extra work to my life!
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There are three types of
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Mr. C is in a âcycle of continuous negative thinkingâ that evokes feelings of âangerâ in response to the stimulus, and that anger makes him angry again⊠and so on.
- They can continue to get frustrated even after theyâve finished taking the poo.
- Youâre still carrying it. I see, so the image is to reduce only the superfluous thoughts.
- They can continue to get frustrated even after theyâve finished taking the poo.
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I thought you also cut out the thoughts that make you act to wash the car (no, if you cut that out too, wouldnât you not be able to wash the car? Are you a master of washing unconsciously? Like that).
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- So thereâs no need to eliminate âthoughts that arenât creating suffering.â
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That said, you can do the work youâre used to without thinking about it.
- In the sense that when you walk, you donât do, âWell, I put my right foot out, now Iâm going to put my left foot out.
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